Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from hogtown.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Wed, 26 Jun 91 05:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Precedence: junk Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Wed, 26 Jun 91 05:48:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SPACE Digest V13 #719 SPACE Digest Volume 13 : Issue 719 Today's Topics: View of STS-40 from the Mission Evaluation Room Re: Traxler says: WAKE UP!!!! Re: Fred's Operatic Death Re: INFO: Clandestine Mars Observer Launch? [l/m 7/11] Frequently asked SPACE questions Re: L-5 Society is now National Space Society (NSS) Administrivia: Submissions to the SPACE Digest/sci.space should be mailed to space+@andrew.cmu.edu. Other mail, esp. [un]subscription requests, should be sent to space-request+@andrew.cmu.edu, or, if urgent, to tm2b+@andrew.cmu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 10 Jun 91 19:35:27 GMT From: skipper!shafer@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) Subject: View of STS-40 from the Mission Evaluation Room A colleague (Lou Adornato adornato%asd.dnet@aio.jsc.nasa.gov) asked me to pass this on, since he doesn't have access from this machine. Someone who understands the technique of e-mailing to berkeley to post should pass the information to both of us, please. NOTE: The following is onofficial and unauthorized and should be taken as heresay only (otherwise a guy named Bruno's going to come down from Washington and rearrange my pulmonary system). I am happy to report that there have been no orbiter DPS or avionics concerns on this mission so far. (The reason I'm happy to report that is that it means that Mike Wallace won't be showing up at my place with a film crew). On flight days 4, 5, and 6 I'm the second shift's avionics team lead in the Mission Evaluation Room (MER). Here's the view of STS-40 from where I've been sitting. Initial ground radar data indicated that STS-40 missed it's MECO velocity target by 22 fps. Subsequent analysis of the observed orbital elements now indicate that MECO velocity was within 4fps of target, and that the radar data was incorrect. Further analysis is planned post flight. As of the end of my shift on Flight Day 5, there are no major IFA's on any spacelab or orbiter systems, with the exception of the environmental seal on the PBD and some loose thermal blankets on the aft bulkhead. Thermal reports that there are no potential hazards in the loose blankets. At this time it looks as though proper thermal conditioning (via sun angle) will cause the seal to deflect away from the door and prevent it from interfering with the latching mechanism. (My understanding is that a failure of latch group 4 wouldn't be a problem anyway - you have to loose at least 2 latch groups before you have a situation) Contingency plans are being put in place for an EVA IFM "just in case" (the incredibly unofficial motto of the Mission Operations Directorate). Current plans are for one crew member to reenter the hab module after deactivation to observe the PBD closing (through the spacelab's endcone window). There was some concern over the safety of this procedure since the cabin air fan will be off at this time (it's turned off to save power as part of the deactivation procedure, and running it without the condensate separator could impact the turnaround for US MGL). The observer should be in the module no more than 15 minutes, but a localized CO2 buildup (in the absence of convection currents) was a concern. Analysis indicates that there is no safety concern because several of the racks will be forcing air into the subfloor, and there should be an air flow down the tunnel from the middeck. Aditionally, the observer will be in constant contact with the rest of the crew, and there's an emegency breathing station right by the viewport. One RCS vernier (R5F, I think) has failed off (due to erratic chamber pressure readings, I think), but there's no impact on vernier attitude control (the verniers are arranged in such a way that it would take at least 2 adjacent jet failures to cause even an inconvenience). An APU3 Exhaust Gas Temperature sensor failed on ascent (indicating +/-200F changes is less than a minute), and the crosstalk took a gas generator bed temp sensor with it. This isn't considered critical - I can't be sure but I think there are redundant backups, and I don't think either reading is really essential to safe operation of the APU. An unknown problem resulted in the S/L computer being re-IPL'd on FD4, but no experiment data was lost and the problem has not returned (dump analysis is still in progress). The humidity seperator experiment (DTO976, I think) was aborted early on FD2 because a large slug of water broke off from the prefilter and temporarily swamped the humsep. The PI suspected it might be a transient or startup condition. The test was rerun yesterday, but not for as long as was originally planned (due to timeline considerations, I think). Some free water was detected by the crew in the lower equipment bay on the waste water tank drain valve solenoid, but it was wiped off and the source wasn't found - the crew will probably check again today to see if the water has returned. Other issues that have come up are include a loss of about 7lbs of N2 on FD1, which was apparently due to a leak through the WCS (the handle wasn't thrown all the way after use, resulting in inadequet seal on the WCS vaccum line (even in space you sometimes have to jiggle the handle to make the toilet stop running). The OMS crossfeed line A heater failed off (apparently due to a thermostat failure), and the line has been isolated (there's a backup). The pressure 'ducer on the RAHF (the rat-rack) water supply has failed, but the POCC will determine water useage indirectly by using the Lixit counts from individual cages along with pre-launch calibrations (which means that someone, somewhere has a fairly precise number for the value of a rats lick). Some problems with the Obriter Refridgerator/Freezer (ORF) have caused it to be shut down, and several short IFMs have been done to try to isolate the cause. Similar problems appeared on the S/L fridge on FD1, but went away, so there's no risk to the samples. Also, a strange smell has been coming fromthe ORF (the crew reports that it smells like aldehyde), which is suspected to be acetic acid ougassing from the silicone seals - toxicology says there's no risk to the crew. One of the LIOH storage locker doors jammed on FD1, and the crew had to pry it open, but it's been left open since then, and will be shut for structural reasons just after the deorbit burn. The IV pump experinent was having some problems on FD1, but the IFM guys had the crew wrap a blood pressure cuff around the intake bag to provide suffient head pressure (this one has to be my personal favorite IFM...), and it's working fine. The GAMS 1 experiment (I have no idea what that is...) has been causing some problems, but the crew's been using the backup without any problems, and will probably try an IFM on the last flight day. There have been some problems with one of the video cameras, but I haven't been following them. The rats seem to be enjoying themselves (they don't know what's in store for them once they get back), and the jellyfish are healthy but somewhat confused (probably a natural state in something with a nervous system only slightly better than that of a slime mold, but they've been swimming in circles). No one had a chance to make a visual on the soviet MIR station on either opportunity yesterday. Current consummable levels are good for a 9+2 mission, with LIOH being the limiting factor. Proper NASA terminology is "nominal" for the mission, but I prefer "fan-dam-tastic". Considering the number of things that can go wrong, I'm still astounded when things go this right. All that planning and care really means a lot when it gets around to flight time. I wish the news media had shown those views of the lower equipment bay that came down yesterday. It's really sobering to think how many pieces in there could cause a loss of *at least* mission success, and to realize that this mission is coming off so well. | This information is unclassified. Lou Adornato | Material herein not cleared by the Public NASA/JSC Engineering Directorate | Affairs Office. Opinions and attitudes do Flight Data Systems Division | not reflect those of NASA. NASA takes no Flight Software Branch (EK2) | responsibility for inaccuracies in my data. -- Mary Shafer shafer@skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov ames!skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov!shafer NASA Ames Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA Of course I don't speak for NASA "Turn to kill, not to engage." CDR Willie Driscoll ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jun 91 00:57:57 GMT From: hub.ucsb.edu!ucsbuxa!3001crad@ucsd.edu (Charles Frank Radley) Subject: Re: Traxler says: WAKE UP!!!! ahem, Freedom is hardly a 60's vintage tin can...... It is the latest in the state of the art, and wil be the most advanced spacecraft ever flown ( at least in the unclassified arena - which is all I know about ). ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jun 91 05:53:00 GMT From: agate!lightning.Berkeley.EDU!fcrary@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Frank Crary) Subject: Re: Fred's Operatic Death In article <1991Jun8.065311.28270@sequent.com> szabo@sequent.com writes: >Henry, I agree with you that EOS is also oversized, but a <$10 >billion program just does not produce the same kind of threat >as a $120 billion program. When Fred is finished, I'll have a go >at turning EOS into something more efficient. > You are using lifetime costs of two programs of VERY different lengths. Freedom will (so they say...) cost $120 billion over the next 37 years, (30-year life starting in 1999). If I recall correctly, the EOS program as it is now budgeted will not run nearly this long. A better comparison would be the cost of ALL the EOS-type research that will be done over the next 4 decades. Frank Crary ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jun 91 00:30:11 GMT From: agate!spool.mu.edu!think.com!rpi!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!lethe!telly!moore!eastern!egsgate!Uucp@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George William Herbert) Subject: Re: INFO: Clandestine Mars Observer Launch? In article <852@newave.UUCP> john@newave.mn.org (John A. Weeks III) writes: > >If you are interested in this type of information, consider subscribing >to the paranet mailing list. Since this newsgroup is sci.space, I would encourage those who want to post Paranet's stuff (and other second-source material) to think long and hard about wether it's up to any scientific standards. Hoagland's isn't really (and don't start on me why; I talked to him myself, as well as the NASA people who can debunk him, and the reason that he's still around is mostly that the scientists were PR idiots and never published a negative- results paper and sat on their enhanced and second-angle data). The Lunar stuff was, however, appropriate. -george william herbert gwh@ocf.berkeley.edu ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jun 91 11:02:04 GMT From: eagle!data.nas.nasa.gov!amelia!eugene@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Eugene N. Miya) Subject: [l/m 7/11] Frequently asked SPACE questions This list does change. Slowly. It only changes when the members of s.s. have something to add, correct, etc. I no longer have time to read s.s., and the SNR is too low. So if this does not change it is more a reflection of the other people you are reading, and not me. Think about that for a moment. You make the difference. "It's not a message. I think it's a warning." -- Ripley This is a list of frequently asked questions on SPACE (which goes back before 1980). It is developing. Good summaries will be accepted in place of the answers given here. The point of this is to circulate existing information, and avoid rehashing old answers. Better to build on top than start again. Nothing more depressing than rehashing old topics for the 100th time. References are provided because they give more complete information than any short generalization. Questions fall into three basic types: 1) Where do I find some information about space? Try you local public library first. You do know how to use a library, don't you? Can't tell these days. The net is not a good place to ask for general information. Ask INDIVIDUALS if you must. There are other sources, use them, too. The net is a place for open ended discussion. 2) I have an idea which would improve space flight? Hope you aren't surprised but 9,999 out of 10,000 have usually been thought of before. Again, contact a direct individual source for evaluation. NASA fields thousands of these each day. 3) Miscellanous queries. Sorry, have to take them case by case. Initially, this message will be automatically posted once per month and hopefully, we can cut it back to quarterly. In time questions and good answers will be added (and maybe removed, nah). 1) What happen to Saturn V plans? What about reviving the Saturn V as a heavy-lift launcher? Possible but very expensive -- tools, subcontractors, plans, facilities are gone or converted for the shuttle, and would need rebuilding, re-testing, or even total redesign. 2) Where can I learn about space computers: shuttle, programming, core memories? %J Communications of the ACM %V 27 %N 9 %D September 1984 %K Special issue on space [shuttle] computers %A Myron Kayton %T Avionics for Manned Spacecraft %J IEEE Transactions on Aerospace and Electronic Systems %V 25 %N 6 %D November 1989 %P 786-827 Other various AIAA and IEEE publications. Computers in Spaceflight: The NASA Experience James E. Tomayko 1988? 3) SETI computation articles? %A D. K. Cullers %A Ivan R. Linscott %A Bernard M. Oliver %T Signal Processing in SETI %J Communications of the ACM %V 28 %N 11 %D November 1984 %P 1151-1163 %K CR Categories and Subject Descriptors: D.4.1 [Operating Systems]: Process Management - concurrency; I.5.4 [Pattern Recognition]: Applications - signal processing; J.2 [Phsyical Sciences and Engineering]: astronomy General Terms: Design Additional Key Words and Phrases: digital Fourier transforms, finite impulse-response filters, interstellar communications, Search for Extra-terrestrial Intelligence, signal detection, spectrum analysis You can make it change. Just discuss the changes on the net, then mail the resolution to me. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jun 91 20:44:09 GMT From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!isi.edu!cew@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Craig E. Ward) Subject: Re: L-5 Society is now National Space Society (NSS) In article <13906@goofy.Apple.COM> leech@Apple.COM (Jonathan Leech) writes: >In article <18178@venera.isi.edu> cew@venera.isi.edu (Craig E. Ward) writes: >>NSS offers a variety of ways to get involved and make a difference in >>creating "a spacefaring civilization with communities beyond the Earth." > > What might they be? L-5 planned to dissolve in a meeting at L-5. To me, it means that traveling to anywhere in the Solar System isn't any more difficult than going anywhere on this planet is today. I don't know if the "dissolve at L5" is still on the books, but I see no reason why not. >NSS is an unabashed NASA supporter which doesn't look beyond Freedom, >and its brand of 'getting involved' seems to be 'lobbying for whatever >NASA asks for.' This just does not stand up to critical examination. Last year, NSS was instrumental in passing the Patents in Space Act that added space-developed products to US patent law and NSS chapters were instrumental in passing the Launch Services Purchase Act that aims to take NASA out of the launch business. NSS Legislative Committee chair Glenn Reynolds has accused NASA of trying to kill SEI by coming out with a silly implementation plan. Not exactly buddy-buddy, but when NASA goals match NSS, we work with them. >It sends out 'space policy surveys' that are already >slanted to give the answers NSS wants. This has been covered before in this group. Surveys sent to potential members are recruiting tools and using them is a standard, effective practice for all activist organizations. The survey sent to members is designed to ascertain what members think about the issues. One of the toughest gives the respondent $100 and asks how it would be divided between six or eight potential projects. >...Feh. I retain my >NSS membership, for some reason, but the Space Studies Institute has >my loyalty. They're *really* making a difference, and if the 'L-5 >spirit' still exists anywhere, it's there. You probably maintain your membership because deep down you realize that even if you were the Absolute Ruler of the organization, it *still* wouldn't do what you wanted all the time and what NSS does is worth the basic membership to you. Giving more to SSI is fine. They too do good things and are deserving. I go through a similar exercise with the Planetary Society. Their leadership does things I know are politically dumb, but on the whole, I support the programs emphasized by PS. They're still worth the basic membership; although I give more to NSS. All activist organizations must balance a variety of factors and the National Space Society is no exception. -- Craig E. Ward Slogan: "nemo me impune lacessit" USPS: USC/Information Sciences Institute 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 1200 Marina del Rey, CA 90292 ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V13 #719 *******************